Releasing Negativity,Rediscovering Vitality For Joyful Aging and Wellness

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Now, I know that you work with women when it comes to the whole idea of aging and staying well.

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What are some of the things in particular that you focus on that you think contributes to the idea of joyful aging?

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Releasing emotional negativity is the number one thing, because if we hold on to anger, pain, resentment, stress, that really tightens the muscles, it creates inflammation and it contributes to illness and disease in the body.

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So one of the I mean of course there's other factors, but the emotional aspect is a really important one to really look at and see.

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Hi, I'm Lennis Woods Mullins and I love to help women to vibe, to be more vibrant, intuitive, beautiful and empowered in midlife.

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So come on, let's vibe.

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A lot of people wonder what does this whole joyful aging and aging gracefully and anti-aging and all this stuff around aging what is it really all about?

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Why do we seem to be so preoccupied with that?

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And I think one of the reasons is because what's going on is people like me I'm 67, us baby boomers are not going away, we're still here.

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And the other thing that a lot of us get is oh my goodness, you don't look your age.

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And I always wonder well, what does age look like?

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I think many times, people are talking about you don't look your age based upon their expectations, and if we take a look at that, a lot of that has to do with the things we've learned over the last 40 years or so in terms of what we need to be doing in order to be more vibrant, more intuitive, more beautiful, more empowered, you know, in order to vibe, which is something I talk about all the time.

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So that's why I'm so excited to talk specifically about the idea of joyfully aging, what that really means, with Corinne Kamara.

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She is the founder of Corinna, a lifestyle brand whose mission is to help women to celebrate aging through beauty and wellness.

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She's also an acupuncturist and a healer, and it's so wonderful to have you here on the Vibe Living Podcast.

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Thanks so much for being here today.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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Absolutely so.

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Tell me, why is it that you're so passionate about the idea of aging in a way that is joyful?

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Many people think that aging isn't joyful.

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Why do you think that it should be and why do you want to talk about it so much?

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Well, I think it's so important to bring joy into your life and love into your life.

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And as we age, the cultural norm is life starts to stop when you hit a certain age, especially for women, where society has put a lot of pressure on our and value, on our beauty and child rearing, and at a certain point it's like globally or I guess in our culture, our Western culture then it's like kind of like, okay, you're old, kind of push you away now, where I feel like women gain so much wisdom and knowledge and become they, come into their power as they get older in a way that I didn't even understand when I was younger, when I had older women.

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Tell me it gets better when you get older and I kind of was like I don't know what you're talking about.

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But when I hit my 40th decade I realized there's this internal strength that starts to build inside of you that I really feel like it's important to nurture and I feel very blessed because I have older women around me, I have a community around me that's helped me see the value of what it looks like to age gracefully and joyfully and what that looks like to be in your heart and what that looks like to be in your heart, what it looks like to be a forgiving person, to work out, to eat well, to really embrace life in a very holistic way.

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And you start to see that you age in a way that you feel good about yourself.

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You have this internal freedom, this internal radiance that shines through your skin and your body.

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So it doesn't even matter what age you are.

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You have this agelessness because you're a spirit.

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We're all spirits.

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Yes, I agree with you.

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I mean, you're preaching to the choir.

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On that one, I think we have very much of the same philosophies.

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Now I know that you work with women when it comes to the whole idea of aging and staying well.

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What are some of the things in particular that you focus on that you think contributes to the idea of joyful aging?

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Releasing emotional negativity is the number one thing, because if we hold on to anger, pain, resentment, stress, that really tightens the muscles, it creates inflammation and it contributes to illness and disease in the body.

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So one of the I mean of course there's other factors, but the emotional aspect is a really important one to really look at and see.

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Are you happy, Are you passionate?

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Are you living from your heart?

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Are you able to let go of the traumas that have happened to you in your past?

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Because that's what really is going to age you Carrying all that baggage as we get older starts to get worse and worse and heavier and heavier.

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And you can even see physically, when you start to age right, A lot of people start to go inside of themselves.

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It's almost like they're carrying this big book bag and they're kind of coming into themselves.

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Our spine starts to collapse.

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There's so many things that happen as we age and a large part of that is having the rigidity of a negative emotions.

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So a large part of what I'm teaching and hoping to spread the message is to help you release negative emotions and how to have more compassion or empathy and, specifically, more love in your life and use these positive emotions as healing mechanisms for your own heart, but then also for your community and the people around you mechanisms for your own heart, but then also for your community and the people around you.

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You know, it's interesting because I think most women women you know 40 and beyond, because I've been working with women 40 and beyond for the last 17 years and I think some of them inherently know this.

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But the issue is comes in oh, how do you do it?

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How do you release those negative emotions?

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How do you eradicate?

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You eradicate things that would put you into a chronic disease path, or how do you let go of the trauma?

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Basically, how do you peel back the layers?

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And, of course, identifying the fact that, yeah, this is what's wrong with me is one thing, but the next thing is having something that is easy to understand and that is easy to implement so that it can really make some differences in terms of your aging journey.

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Based upon that, what kinds of things do you do with your clients to kind of help them maybe make those incremental changes in their lives, so that they can begin to see some and feel differently?

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That's a great question, you know, it really depends on the individual, but generally I say you know, you don't there's a lot of things that have happened in our lives, right?

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So it's impossible to focus on all of them at the same time.

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So the number one thing I say is to start focusing on one thing that you can work on.

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For instance, if you have an issue with your sister or your brother, like one relationship in your life, let's focus on that one relationship, because how you do one thing is how you do many other things.

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And focusing on how can I forgive this person?

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And what does that look like?

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What are the steps for forgiveness?

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It could look like okay, like what are ways that I could?

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I've learned from this relationship?

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So you can be very mental about it and maybe write things down what this person did to me, how can I let these things go?

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Can I really forgive them?

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So you start going through different methods in your mind of how you can forgive this person.

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Sometimes you can speak to them, sometimes you can't.

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It's really not about that.

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It's really about how can you let go of this pain inside your heart, like so, for instance, I worked on forgiving my father.

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So I went through this whole practice of really breaking down all the things I felt he did to me when I was young, each event Like he did this one thing he beat me at this moment.

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Okay, how can I forgive this moment?

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What was he going through?

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What was I going through?

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How can I let this specific thing go?

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And I just would go on hikes and I would just think about it and be like, okay, I'm letting this go, I'm putting this out on the earth.

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God, take the wheel.

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I want to forgive my father and I really wanted to forgive my father.

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So it took me like a year to really work this out, no-transcript, and literally I felt this whole energy lift off my body.

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Isn't that amazing.

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It was so amazing.

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Yes, it is Something as simple as that, and you know, I read a book once and I gave it to my niece and now I don't see it.

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I usually always keep it on my desk.

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It's called the Body Keeps the Score and it talks about trauma and how trauma impacts certain parts of our body, and one of the things I think is really interesting in terms of the skills that you have is how it could possibly help when it comes to releasing traumas, and that's acupuncture.

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How do you use your practice of acupuncture to help women release some of these negative emotions and trauma?

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So acupuncture in and of itself, the whole process of acupuncture, is to help remove stagnation, so energy blockages that can cause emotional pain, physical pain, so that the methodology of acupuncture itself helps to me because they have some kind of pain somewhere and ultimately, choosing points that are specific to help move emotions.

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All the meridians are associated with a specific emotion.

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So, for instance, anger is one that people often feel, where you get to shut the tight shoulders, the jaw.

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So you know, putting points specifically in those areas can then soften the muscle and then relax the emotion around it.

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But it's also important to associate the emotion with the experience.

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So if we're talking about stress, if we're talking about this it's really like angry about then we're putting in the points in and then you're relaxing.

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So you have to kind of have a connection in your mind about what you're releasing as well, because that also helps the body release it more.

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Acupuncture in itself will help you release emotions, but I find it more powerful to actually talk about it.

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Then do the acupuncture session and then it can kind of then you have a more holistic approach and then the person goes home, they have some kind of maybe they have a release, an awakening, an aha moment and they come back and they're like, oh, this happened and this happened.

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And they're like, oh, this happened and this happened.

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And I'm like, yeah, that happened because you were able to release the tension in your jaw, in your shoulder, in your neck or wherever about an anger point.

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You know, the jaw is really interesting because it's oftentimes things you can't say or things you hold in, you clench, or you know something's happening, you don't want to say it.

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So, finding ways to communicate, that's loving and direct, that you're able to release what's in your heart, I feel like that's so important, especially for women.

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So, yeah, acupuncture is amazing because it helps not only on the physical level.

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It helps on the emotional level, the mental level and the spiritual level.

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You know it's interesting because there's something you said about the jaw area.

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A lot of people are unaware that TMJ comes from that very idea of say, well, because of stress, but the stress comes from not speaking their truth, not being able to feel comfortable and digging deep and just releasing either releasing what it is that's bothering you or talking about it in terms of what's bothering you.

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So you're absolutely right about that and I find it interesting because you're talking about the job.

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But I see that you do facial acupuncture.

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Can you explain what that is and how does it work?

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So facial acupuncture is amazing because we have the facial muscles work a little differently than the body muscles, so the skin in our face moves with our muscles, which is not the case in our body.

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Our muscles move differently than our face, so the face is very much more, way more expressive, which is why we get wrinkles on our face and I love to treat the face because it releases so much emotions, like we're so expressive in our face and so all the tension in our face.

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You know, the smile lines are great, but frown lines are not so much, and so there's different wrinkles that deal with different emotions and how you deal with that.

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Elevens are usually anger and frustration.

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But so there's the cosmetic side, of course that helps with frown lines and wrinkles.

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But then for me, what I find to be the more powerful part is releasing facial tension, softening the face and then at the same time working with the emotional aspects of what's going on in your life and then also releasing that through the face and what that looks like to smile with your eyes, to have a joyful expression which comes from the heart space.

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So there's also body points, with the facial acupuncture but, ultimately, it's a space where people can really heal and relax into their body, relax their jaw, relax their forehead, release the tension that they're holding and oftentimes that's linked to a negative thought form or a negative emotion that they're carrying.

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That's amazing.

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I don't think we ever think about that when we're breaking down.

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What's really going on with areas of our body that we hold so much tension in our face Many times, especially if you're in the situation where you're going to work every day and you're around a lot of people that don't really know you there's a certain decorum when you're working, and so there's certain things and emotions that you just don't show, and so you try not to show them on your face, you try not to speak your truth out loud, so all this stuff is just, like you know, staying inside and not being released, which is one of the reasons why I ended up with an anxiety disorder after working 25 years in corporate America and I found for me the only way to ultimately heal was to go away from that for a year and begin several holistic practices to help deliver me from anxiety, and now, 17 years later, I'm about 99% anxiety free.

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But I was wondering you know most of us who are in the wellness genre, whether we're coaches or instructors or a practitioner most of us have some kind of a healing journey or wellness story.

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What's your healing journey?

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Well, I always wanted to be a healer of some sort.

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So when I was working at an acupuncture school as an office manager, I had a cyst on my ovary and I decided that I didn't want to do surgery.

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So I decided to try acupuncture instead and it worked.

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After two months my cyst dissipated.

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I had really painful menses that also dissipated.

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I was waking up with my boyfriend that I thought was like the love of my life.

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I was devastated.

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My boyfriend that I thought was like the love of my life I was devastated.

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Acupuncture helped give me so much clarity and peace that I decided to move to California.

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Because at that time I was in New York City where I grew up and I knew I didn't want to stay in New York, but I also didn't know where I should move to.

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And after a few sessions consecutively I kind of had clear clarity.

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It was like move to San Francisco.

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I moved to San Francisco and it totally changed my life and that amazing mentors and teachers and friends and community that really taught me the power of love and healing and joy and mentally ultimately changed my life.

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My whole healing trajectory became about how do I become a better healer, better person, how do I find more love in my life?

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Because in New York I felt very unloved and very depressed and suicidal.

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I was a mess.

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And when I came to California and I started acupuncture school and I started on my self-healing journey, it totally transformed my life, acupuncture being a big part of it.

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Isn't that wonderful.

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And one other thing also is that you're in a modality that you can help others in terms of, you know, kind of delivering them for whatever it is that's causing their unwellness.

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And it's interesting because one of the things that can cause or facilitate or really exacerbate the aging process is stress and not, you know, dealing with the stressors in your life and not having a plan.

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Many times, I think, with the women that I work with, one of the things is that they're just so used to feeling that way.

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It's not even about even looking for a solution.

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That's just the way it is.

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You just deal with it and they feel like you know, they feel that they're okay.

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But I know from you know just the age that I am that by the time you get my age, if you've been on chronic stress for 20 something years, things are going to start going awry.

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So what kinds of things, what kinds of maladies and issues have you seen with women who are aging?

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When it comes to stress, how is it impacting their bodies with your experience, Well, I would say the biggest issue is almost always chronic pain.

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I think that's the one that drives people the most into my office is they have chronic neck pain, shoulder pain.

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If they are still bleeding, their menstrual cycles can be all over the place painful, heavy bleeding.

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This doesn't always have to always link to stress, but for some women it is Digestive disorders, migraines, headaches.

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Overall, I'm unhappy with my life and nothing's happening.

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Low libido it seems like their life feels very dull, black and white, there's no color, and they have this very okay.

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I guess this is my life.

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I have kids, they're growing up, I'm married, okay, and for me that's why the joyful part is so important is because to really help infuse that joy, because in our 40s a lot of my clients in their 40s and 50s if you live to 90s, you still got 50 years on this planet Do you really want to stay in this space?

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And you know, really, looking at it from a place of okay, what can we do?

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One incremental change can we do?

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Like you're getting acupuncture, great.

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What about walking?

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What about drinking more water?

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Sometimes the basics are so important and even the basics people don't do like working out for me.

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I tell people, that's, if you can't do anything else, like need to just work out, walking, anything.

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Movement is so important.

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So it's really about giving them hope and giving them a vision of you can have a different life.

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You can be joyful, you can be older, you can be fabulous, you can wear mini skirts, you can do whatever you want.

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I think having that ability to think and imagine that your life can be different is so important, and also having people that are here for you and cheer for you and support community.

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I think this is so important.

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I think when women are in community and they see oh, wow, my neighbor, look at her, look at her, wow, they're uplifting it gives you hope and ideas of wow, I could live a different way.

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That's why when I have friends that are in their seventies and they look amazing, I'm like, oh wow, I don't have, I could still hike up mountains at seventies.

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Sure, my friend is seventies, she's going hiking, I can do it too.

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So I think also having community of people that are also living in a way that you that align with who you are is really important.

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So that's why I feel like building community is so vital.

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I agree with you.

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That's one of the reasons why I started a membership program, because having people around each other with like minds, women with like minds who are supporting each other, sharing information.

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I was going to ask you about the joy quotient, though.

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You talk about joyfully aging and we talked about ways that you can do that, but if you were to give your top three things that women can do to have more joy in their life, what would that be?

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What would that look like?

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I would say the first one would be telling yourself you love yourself like something as simple as putting your hand over your heart and being like I love you, really infusing love into your body and into your cells.

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I think that's important to really start to see yourself as a loving human being and that you are your spirit of love.

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So that'd be the number one thing.

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And for some people that's hard to even say that to themselves.

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So sometimes I tell women, if they have a hard time saying that, maybe say something like oh, I'm kind or I'm empathetic, or whatever the word is that you can identify with If love feels too intense or I like you, start there.

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So whatever feels comfortable, I would start affirming yourself.

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Another one which tends to be triggering for women is to look in the mirror when you're naked and to say I love you to all the body parts.

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You know, a lot of us have a hard time accepting our body, specifically when we start aging and things start looking different, things are hanging different.

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Those are the times where you start looking in the mirror and be like I love you.

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I love you breast, I love you stomach, I love you, I love you rolls, I love you thighs.

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You know, really accepting your body the way it is, because that's also part of self-love is really accepting your body.

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So that's another one.

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And the third one is, I would say, is to have fun, is to find something that brings you joy, something as as silly as dancing in your living room, coloring whatever, like anything that puts a smile on your face, like watching kitty videos, it doesn't matter.

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Like whatever you can find that you know it's going to make you smile.

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Do that for a few minutes a day.

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I think that's wonderful.

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I always tell people one way to bring joy into your life is to find something that makes you laugh, even if that means watching an old movie or a new movie, any kind of funny movie, anything that's funny and then, in the same token, not watching those things that you know are going to upset you, that are negative, that are going to put you in that space of being angry.

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I know that having a lot of anger can aid you.

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I mean all the way just down to how you're holding your face when you're angry.

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It causes more wrinkles.

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What is that statistic that talks about?

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It takes so many more facial muscles to frown than it does to smile, which is interesting.

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And it's amazing how, when you are smiling at others, you get that smile back and it's kind of like a symbiotic kind of thing.

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You know you're smiling to other people to help bring more joy to you, so that they'll smile back, you know, so that you could feel better.

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How have you been able to use, like the Eastern philosophy practices that you use holistically, and the Western health practices?

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How do you merge those two so that you can get a really good outcome for your clients?

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Well, for me, the Western how I use the Western modality is in their diagnostic tools.

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So a lot of times if I'm working with, for example, a woman in perimetopause, it's really nice to have her labs right to know what her hormonal levels are.

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So that's what I would use that information and how can we?

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Then I tailor the acupuncture session to support her hormones and or supplements or herbs to also support if she doesn't want to go on hormones.

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So for me, the Western model is really important in that case for all the diagnostic tools.

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So if the doctor is like, okay, we're doing, this is our treatment protocol, then I'm like okay, how can I support you on the Western side, on the Eastern side?

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So if you're taking medication for high blood pressure, all these things, we're going to do a holistic treatment but also maybe help you treat your side effects.

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If you can't sleep because your medication is doing this, I could support you in that way.

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So for me I think it's more of a partnership.

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So if you're on a Western plan, I fully support that.

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I think it's important to take your medications and do all that, but at the same time I think it's really important to also do the holistic working on your energy, getting all of that situated and also releasing those emotions, because you'll find, if you change your lifestyle in terms of food, exercise, mindset, spirit, you may or may not, but you may need less of your Western medication, and that's the goal right, so that you can not be so dependent on it.

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I feel like Western medicine is a blessing, but I also want people to be free of it if they can.

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Yeah, I believe in the integrative approach when it comes to your wellness and I believe that really all women should have a team of people that they go to see their nutritionist, their, their gynecologist, their health coach, maybe a holistic practitioner when it comes to acupuncture or essential oils, or normal therapy or massage therapist and people say, oh my God, that costs a lot of money.

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But well, it depends on how you look at it.

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I always say it depends.

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You can either pay for it on the front end or the back end, but guaranteed you're going to pay something, and I would venture to say that your end of life expenses are a heck of a lot more money and a lot less fun because you're not there than actually investing in yourself while you're on this side of the dirt, as they say.

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You know it.

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Of the Derns, they say it's really interesting to talk with you, karina, and I want to make sure that everyone knows that her information is on the show page, her website, her social media.

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Do you take clients that aren't necessarily where you are?

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Do you have an online practice as well?

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Yeah, I totally can see people online.

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I also do energy healing and coaching so I can work with people online and then we can talk about different lifestyle options and ways that you can heal emotionally to get to that space of joyful aging and joyful living.

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I mean, I call it joyful aging, but it's really joyful living because we're always every moment.

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But it's, how can you live in every moment to the joy, to it's joyful, to the fullest, Exactly To the fullest.

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Absolutely.

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That's really what I'm really teaching and hoping people engage in is how they can find moments of joy, every single moment, as much as you can, because we know life can be lifing and it can be heavy Absolutely, and there are moments that we can find of joy and gratitude that can really make life more enjoyable and peaceful.

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It's all about creating that internal peace.

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It's not always happy, but it can be peaceful.

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Absolutely, and I'm grateful.

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I'm grateful we connected and that we had the interview.

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This has been one of those days where you know intersect communications, wrong dates and times and stuff, but I remembered we are still in Mercury retrograde at the time that we're recording this, so that makes perfect sense.

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Karen, thank you so much for being with us on the Vibe Living Podcast.

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It's wonderful having you here today.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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And thank you to all of you who've taken the time to listen.

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Thank you for getting us globally ranked in the top 10% of podcasts throughout the whole world.

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Can you believe that?

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3,300,000 podcasts and we're in the top 10%, which means I don't know what number.

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We are somewhere in that 300,000, but that's okay, I'll take it.

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It's all about finding things to be joyful about and then going from there.

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I wish you thought that, whatever you do, that you continue to work on your vibrancy, your intuition, your beauty and also your empowerment to live a healthy and full and joyful life as you age.

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Thanks so much, everybody, for listening and don't forget to subscribe, like and comment and share this podcast.

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Have a fantastic day and don't forget the vibe.

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Bye, bye, everybody.