Navigating Menopause Naturally: Embracing Holistic Practices for Hormonal Health

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What happens when our computers open with a?

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lot of tabs.

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Let me tell you, I'm an expert at that.

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It happens to me all the time, because I'm clicking here, clicking there, and then I'm wondering well, wait a minute, why is it?

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Why am I buffering what isn't?

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working.

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So when women come to me, I start with the foundational things Diet, rest, exercise, stress reduction.

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What things are they doing?

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Because, no matter what the labs say, we have to get real with ourselves and talk about how many stresses do you have going on, girlfriend, and what things can we close out?

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Which tabs can we close out?

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Hi, I'm Linus Woods Mullins and I love to help women to vibe, to be more vibrant, intuitive, beautiful and empowered in their life.

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So come on, let's vibe.

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You know, when I first started Menopause, or what I thought was Menopause I came up with all these crazy ideas of things I was going to do that was going to fix it right.

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I was going to lose any weight that might come up.

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I was going to exercise and stay in shape.

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I was going to watch what I eat.

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I was going to do all these things, and that was before even the symptoms started.

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The funny thing is that when I entered into menopause, I had hardly no symptoms.

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Hot flashes, that was about it.

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But then, about eight years later, there's weight gain coming on and all this other stuff.

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But the wonderful thing about it was I had learned the error of my ways from what I thought I was going to do earlier and was prepared for that extra little weight gain and what could do.

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And that's what I want to talk to you about today.

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I want to lay to rest the myth that are out there that we talk about when it comes to menopause and what you should and shouldn't do.

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So I'm really happy to have with me someone who is board certified.

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She's a functional health practitioner and a holistic hormonal health expert, dee Davidson, it's so wonderful to have you here today and I love your thick round.

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You are just seek very deep in the whole idea of holistic wellness and you love the idea of people embracing their midlife journey and that you empower women to be playing their growth right, to be more joyful and vital and to elevate their energy and embrace their highest potential.

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I mean you are copying my talk, so thank you so much for being here.

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On the Bible Green Podcast today.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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I knew when we first connected we were definitely going to align very well and have lots to share.

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Absolutely.

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I also like the spiritual aspect of what you do as well.

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But during those first crazy days and that was when I was 51.

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Now, fast forward, I'll be 67 in a couple of months but it was so funny.

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I was ready to do all this stuff and nothing really happened.

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And then a little bit later on, like eight years later, I started to have big gains sleeplessness, grief, all this stuff.

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But it was okay because I was kind of prepared.

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Thanks to people like you, I went to as practitioners to get the right information.

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So let's talk about the right information first of all.

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How did you get to be so passionate about helping women do this particular phase of their life.

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Well, I'm personally going to be 50 years old this year, in a few months, and you know, matter of fact, I went to lunch on Good Friday with my best friend.

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We've been friends since second grade.

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She's also going to be 50 this year and she said you know, I am so sick and tired of women talking about perimenopause and menopause and blaming everything on the fact that they're in this stage of life.

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So my hormone health journey and love for hormone health has gone over two decades.

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It really started with infertility and then weight gain.

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They had post-infertility treatments.

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I was working out, eating healthy and had to learn how to rebalance my hormones just due to the shock of all the drugs and the stress that I went through.

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And now, fast forward, I just get a lot of inquiries from all the women in my circle and my demographic in regard to hormone health and menopause and perimenopause.

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A lot of people don't realize that menopause starts really 15 years before menopause really shows up, as you were saying, and so I walk the talk.

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I like to say and so I'm a living example that you don't have to just take on.

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This identity of menopause did this to me and that's become my main demographic now is women who are experiencing those changes and uncomfortable and not understanding their body anymore.

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I think we attract the stage that we're in right.

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That's how we help people, absolutely.

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It's a little bit about some of the myths that are out there about menopause that have been scientifically proven not to be true.

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Let's start with exercise, which I think is huge.

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One of my dearest friends I think she's 55 now and she's one of those go-hard exercise people and she's as thin as a rail, in fact she told me that she thinks that she might be addicted to exercise and so she's going to seek counseling because I think she might be.

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But is that what we need to do to make sure we're all hot, you know, trying out, we're doing a marathon or going to be, you know, running track or any of that.

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What's really happening with this whole exercise thing?

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Yes, and you are talking to someone who may have had an issue with exercise like your friend.

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You know I remember times of saying, oh I'm having a really rough day, and people think that exercise is stress relief, which it can be if used in a healthy way.

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However, if you overexercise or you're not embracing the other stresses that you may already have going on, it can certainly hurt where you're at with your hormones and cortisol.

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I was doing three boot camps a week Monday, wednesday, friday.

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I spent raining the other two days and I will tell you I was really.

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I was tired at night and some women just think you know, we're women and we go, go, go, we take care of families and businesses and everyone but ourselves sometimes.

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I just thought I was just tired at night because I was busy and I'm a single mom of two boys and when I went through my functional health practitioner course I had to be my own first client.

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So I had to do the tests on myself and I was shocked because here I was and going to the gym on a fasted state because I was told, well, you'll burn more fat.

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Well, in essence, the science and the data doesn't lie.

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When I did my hormone testing, my cortisol was tanked so I had put myself into adrenal fatigue and that's certainly not going to help any of the symptoms of the fact that you are changing.

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Your hormones are changing with the change of life, but I describe it as having, you know, your computer open with lots of open tabs.

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Right, what happens when our computers open with a lot of tabs?

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Let me tell you, I'm an expert at that.

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It happens to me all the time, because I'm clicking here, clicking there, clicking there, and then I'm wondering well, wait a minute, why is it?

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Why am I buffering?

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Why isn't this working?

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You look at the buttons behind the windows, behind the windows, and I'm like, oh okay.

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So when women come to me, I start with the foundational things diet, rest, exercise, stress reduction.

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What things are they doing?

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Because, no matter what the labs say, we have to get real with ourselves and talk about how many stresses you have going on, girlfriend, and what things can we close out?

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Which tabs can we close out?

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We close out which tabs can we close out?

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And sometimes exercise has to be one of those things that it might just be.

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You know, for six months all I could do is walking and yoga, which drove me crazy.

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But my labs, just you know, uncovered or revealed that I was in this exhaustive phase it's literally called exhaustive and so I'm glad that the good Lord gave me this blessing of saying, hey, you can't keep doing this and I could change things around.

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But exercise and the sad thing is, when we go to the doctor, that's what they tell us right, exercise more, eat less.

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You don't necessarily watch more to this picture.

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I'm a big believer in joyful movement.

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I also have a lot of ladies who don't even like boot camps or CrossFit or spinning, but they force themselves to go because they've been told that that's what's going to help them maintain their weight and get through this time, which is so not true.

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Your cells are listening.

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So if you're not happy up here and in here, your cells are listening and you're going to get the opposite effect.

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You're again spiking cortisol, bringing out bad energy.

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When we talk about vibes, right, you're working against the current, so joyful exercise, which means that every single day exercise might be different from you.

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The person like myself who was stuck on Monday, wednesday, friday bootcamp can now say I've had to embrace it and say I'm really tired.

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Today I had an extra busy day with my family and my business and so I might do nothing.

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And, ladies, if you don't go to the gym for a week, two, even a month, a short period of your life you're not going to all of a sudden gain the 20 pounds.

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It's the consistency of what we do on a regular basis that matters, listening to your body is so important.

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That's why I like to tell my clients that we want to put together a movement regime not exercise, because exercise brings the chondros up, all this other stuff sweating and not having fun.

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Now, if that is something that you enjoy doing, then great, but if you don't enjoy doing it, then it's definitely not going to work that way.

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Because there's this whole thing about that mind, body, spirit connection going and that body wise you think you're doing great, but mind wise and spiritually you're not feeling too good about it and you can't even listen to your body.

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so, okay, that's the one meant.

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We just thought through dispelling and that is going hard in exercise isn't necessarily what you want to do.

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You want to do something that you enjoy, like, for instance, I do my walk about every other day and I do yoga and I play stance for years in my church and before that I was classically trained in valerian for years and that kind of carried on to where I am now.

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A lot of people have muscle memory.

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So if you skip a day or two or, as you said, a month, it's not going to be a great day.

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It's really up on yourself.

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And I need to write people to just look at.

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Be honest with yourself.

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Take out a piece of paper and a pen and write down how many stressors you have going on and those can be external stressors, job, financial relationships and hidden stressors so you might already have some things.

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You know thyroid that you're up against, or you know other autoimmune disease you could just have gotten over COVID, whatever those things are.

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Be honest, does my body really need this tough workout today?

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That's true.

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You know, just the other day I was on a lot.

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You know I was out.

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You know that was as a pea.

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You know I feel a little tired Now.

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Back in the old days I would have forced myself to do it, but I said, well, I've walked for like 15 minutes.

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I think that's it for me today and I'm gonna go back home and maybe meditate or rest a little bit because I'm tired and I can tell you the reason why I was tired.

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I unfortunately lost six people in my life with rare weeks.

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None of them were related or they were with after all different things.

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Four of them were in my age.

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You know I'm 67, I will be 67 a couple months and you know it was just one of those things.

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And I was spiritually tired, listened to my body and my and my spirit and said you know I need rest, because there is strength in giving yourself that time to rest.

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Let's talk a little bit about that, because one of the things why the other myth because there is strength in giving yourself that time to rest.

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Let's talk a little bit about that, because one of the things, one of the other myth menopause is that you know if you're having bad sleep.

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It's just the hormones.

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Yeah, you know there's nothing you can do about that, but I don't think that's really true.

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Can you talk about that a little?

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bit.

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No, that is not true.

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I have a lot of women.

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I really pride myself in helping women sleep again.

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It's one of the first things that I actually have really good success rate helping women with.

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They're really not addressing the things that wake them up at night or keep them up at night and that is just an excuse to say that it's menopause.

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We have to look at several things.

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Number one is how are we mentally and spiritually preparing our body for sleep and rest that last hour before bed?

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Are you dimming the lights?

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Are you scrolling your phone?

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Do you have EMF going crazy in your bedroom?

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You know, is the temperature right?

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That's basic 101.

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But internally we have to think about did I eat enough food today?

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Women are striving themselves.

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It's really really sad.

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They're skipping meals.

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They're running on a protein bar or protein shake.

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If your body's not well fueled, it's going to show up at night because the stress you can't force or fake things to the body, even people with anxiety and panic a lot of that comes up during menopause.

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Anything that you subconsciously have sitting there, whether it be you haven't nourished your body, you haven't processed emotions, whatever you think you can trick your body into believing when you go to sleep and you let go and give it over to the good Lord.

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It comes up.

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So cortisol is spiking.

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For some reason, cortisol is the hormone that makes you wake up in the morning.

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If cortisol doesn't spike, you're not living anymore.

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So when you look at what those stressors are, am I eating enough?

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Did I have sugar after six or seven o'clock at night?

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That's going to spike your cortisol.

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Did I balance my blood sugar throughout the day, eating well-balanced meals?

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Because, again, you know, I talked to women who they might not be eating terribly, but they might just grab a handful of carrot sticks and then they're going to have the granola bar and they think they're eating healthy.

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They come to me and they'll say I eat pretty healthy, but they're not eating to balance their blood sugar.

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And when it comes to menopause, at the top three, you got to balance your blood sugar.

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Your body is no longer going to be able to sustain the icky habits that you've had before.

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Your body needs you to show up.

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And then the last thing is, internally, things start to show up so bad bacterias, not to be gross, but parasites.

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Parasites are very active at night.

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That's where functional lab testing comes into play, if you have set yourself up for a good night's sleep, if you've journaled or prayed or meditated and you know that you've emptied out the trash I say every day before bed so that you're not taking that into your sleep.

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You've regulated your blood sugar throughout the day.

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Eat out the trash.

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I say every day before bed so that you're not taking that into your sleep.

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You've regulated your blood sugar throughout the day.

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Oh, and don't drink water up to you know two or three hours before bed.

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That's another thing.

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We've gone water crazy.

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We need to be hydrated, but then people are awakening because they have to go to the bathroom and they can't get back to sleep or they're not getting that nice restful seven or eight hours of sleep.

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So you know, if you've done all those things and you're still waking up, likely your body has some hidden stressors.

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We all can carry parasites, bad bacterias, yeast, all these things to a certain point and let's get real at 50, you know we've lived quite a bit of time and carried things and now your body might be saying, hey, check under the hood.

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So those are things that also wake people up at night.

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But once we clean those things up and mostly the foundational things, then we see a lot of women restfully sleeping.

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All those things are true, and I always tell my clients, too, that, you know, everybody is different.

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So you have to figure out, within a certain realm, what works for you.

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I'm one of those people that I need six hours of sleep and I work five hours and 59 minutes.

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Six hours are fun, yeah, why to sleep until seven or eight hours not gonna work for me.

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I think that's really important that some women don't give themselves permission to do, but they need to give themselves permission to do it if they have the time and to do it, and that is taking.

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That.

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That's regenerative and if they are feeling tired in the middle of the day.

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Of course it could be a blood sugar down, whatever, but if you can take that nap, that can be very helpful as well, very restorative.

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And you know, as women we're thinking.

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I know I'm super guilty about naps and I'm not really, but when I feel the need to take a nap I will take one, because when I wake up I feel so much better and it doesn't interfere with my other sleep.

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And the other thing that you said about anxiety.

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Just to quit my story and I don't know if you know it, but I know a lot of my lifters know it I got into this whole brouhaha because I had an anxiety disorder.

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I was getting closer to an anxiety disorder at 51.

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And you're often working to try to figure out how to heal myself, and when holistically.

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And when I figured out how to heal myself somewhat holistically, I still had it, but not as bad.

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I decided I didn't want to go back to corporate America.

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And it was 17 years ago this month and I have to say it was quite a journey.

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Sure Holistically from the anxiety because my traditionally trained doctors never mentioned anything about menopausal anxiety World.

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My specialization I wanted to move my wellness clients forth was all about menopausal anxiety and stress, because they're huge in terms of how it impacts your overall wellness.

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Once I realized that my menopause was right, anxiety was very much tied to my menopause and the hormones and all of that.

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That's when I had some aha moments.

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I wanted to say that I'm about 99% anxiety-free.

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It happened for a while because I learned how to balance my hormones and to even just address the issue I mean they wanted to give me pharmaceuticals for my anxiety.

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That's not it.

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I'm not going to do that because I know there's something else going on.

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So you know intuitively when you're feeling a certain way and you know the things that your doctor is telling you is not quite working and you're giving that feedback to the doctor and they're still insisting that you do it this way.

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You may want to consider you want to be able to have a doctor that you can have a conversation with and ask questions, and I know that not many doctors are under the managed care system and they don't always have as much time as they've had, but most doctors will make the time when you have the questions.

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And what I did when I changed my doctor is I came in with a list, my journal, and it's fun, you know, I love that happening.

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And so that's when she said, you know, because now this is the integrative doctor, okay, the book process approaches things holistically.

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She said, you know, because now this is the integrative doctor, okay, the bone process approaches things holistically.

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She said, you know, do you think you might have a nerve offering?

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But I mean, we have been going through this for like almost 10 years and, even though I have anxiety wasn't even diagnosed.

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My anxiety was anecdotal as well as from because there was and that's the other thing that you kind of, but I want to bring forth is, you know, as we age, we've had so many experiences and, as that famous book says, the body does keep the score when it's our trauma.

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Appealing back the layers and dealing with some of those things that we haven't dealt with spiritually can be so impactful in terms of how we journey through menopause.

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That is so true and that is one of the things that I had shared with you is that hormone health is all of my marketing right.

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Every woman age 45 plus thinks if I'm not sleeping, gaining weight, having hot flashes, it's my hormones, which, yes, there is a piece to that, but we have to look at the hormones not being the problem.

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It's what is contributing to your hormones being off balance.

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And so women come to me with these physical symptoms, especially because I do functional lab testing and I can interpret them and build protocols and all that good stuff.

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But the fun part for me is that when they leave, typically three or six months later, they've looked at those layers and they've really reevaluated what things they have been carrying.

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And it can be inner child work and you know I have all these people in my toolbox that I refer to but it could be something from their childhood, it could be they went through a divorce and they thought I'm fine and I process that, or limiting beliefs around.

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You know something that they were told.

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But we do.

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We carry this stuff and store it and it manifests in our health for sure.

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You know it's interesting too when you talk about the organs.

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I think we touched upon that.

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My liver, for example, when I did my testing, was really congested and sluggish and the liver is associated with anger and you know, I went through an unexpected divorce but I think, like because I practice gratitude and I pray and you have a good connection with Jesus, that I, you know I'm fine with that, but really it made me go, wow, that's.

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You know, there is an internal piece to all of this spiritual connection and when we restore things, and I'm glad you mentioned the toolkit, because my goal is with this podcast is for people to hear certain things and decide they're going to put that in their toolkit or at least explore it to find out whether or not it's something that might help them, because there are as many tools out there as there are symptoms and then within those tools for those symptoms, there's even more tool there.

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Other thing I've learned too, and that I've observed with my clients, is that some things work for a while and then change.

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Things change and that's why it's so important to have that tool kit, because for my anxiety I've dealt, I've used eft, energy, hearing, aromatherapy, yoga, movement, meditation.

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I mean those are just a few of the things.

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Of course Other supplements and things, and all of them worked for the time that they were useful.

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But the great thing about it is that now if I throw a toy and it's going here and there, I do a self-care check, I check in with myself and I think it's important that we check in with ourselves and just say, okay, wait a minute, how you feeling, girl going on, you know what, what are the feelings inside?

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Or you know any like weird little aches or pains or twitches that you kind of pushing back what's going on.

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It's amazing what will come up.

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Yes, you allow it.

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If you allow that inner voice I call it the holy spirit to direct you, it will help you.

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When you know you haven't drank that much water today or you know you didn't take, you might want to try taking like, for instance, I will definitely get a clear signal when it's time for me to take sammy.

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Sammy is a supplement.

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It's a chemical that's produced in the brain that begins to lessen as we get older.

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Many times people who don't get enough sunlight.

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They need a sand, me plus.

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It's also great for your liver function and also help with joint health.

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But this was the beginning of my being delivered from anxiety.

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It really helped me get to the next level.

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But I don't take it all the time.

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I take it when I know I need it, and that's the same with everything else.

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Don't take it all the time.

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I take it when I know I need it, and that's the same with everything else.

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Some days you may need to do your, your eft, or or other days you may need to.

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You know, take a look at that liver detox, you know, to kind of cleanse your liver, there's all kinds of things, but it's especially helpful if you have in your toolkit someone like you, a health practitioner, that can guide you.

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And I love your brand title confidently confidently loving yourself or confidently love yourself.

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What is it about that title?

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Why did you decide to give you give yourself that brand?

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Why did you think it's important for us to confidently love?

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Well, what I found over the years of helping women was that if you didn't love yourself enough, you weren't going to show up every day to drink the water, take the walk, go to therapy, all of those things.

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So you know, I've even reevaluated recently.

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Oh, do I really?

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Just, you know, get rid of that.

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It doesn't really talk about being a functional health practitioner.

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The answer keeps coming back to me from the Holy Spirit.

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No, this is your brand and this is what resonates with people.

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It might not resonate when they first come to me.

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They're a little confused, like you run labs and build protocols.

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But your brand is confidently love yourself.

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Well, you have to confidently love yourself enough to make the switches, because you and I know that sometimes that's difficult, it's not easy.

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I have a friend who reached out to me yesterday.

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She's been a friend of mine for 25 years.

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I know her very well and I love her dearly.

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However, I know that she is not so flexible and open to making switches, such as maybe not having alcohol or not eating certain foods or, you know, practicing mindfulness and things like that.

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So you have to really confidently love yourself enough to show up for your health, your vitality and preventative health long term.

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Absolutely, and everybody on the show page for those of you who are on my website page and everybody on the show page for those of you who are on my website page or, if you're not go there or go on the Apple Fillcase page or any of the show pages, wherever platform you're on, are all of the different links and ways that you can contact Dee Davidson and Scanful, a consultant, every call to get the help that people need, whether it's me or someone else, because I'm not trying to do business with everybody in the whole world.

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I agree, I agree I agree the word out there, because I really do feel, as women we have a tendency to put ourselves on the back burner and then we're finally ready to maybe do some things.

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We reach back there.

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We can't try to find ourselves.

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Sometimes you need a little bit of help and support and empowerment.

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So I encourage you to check out Dee Davidson and all her links are there.

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You know it's wonderful talking with you.

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I feel like I'm kind of talking to the mirror of myself.

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The mirror of myself.

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You know we have the same.

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I know I do.

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I feel like we just connected from the first time that we had our chat, so thank you for having me on.

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You're just lovely.

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Thank you.

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It's wonderful having you here on the podcast and I'm so glad that you could make it today, as I am glad that all of you are here today.

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I am very well aware that there are lots of podcasts out there that you could be listening to, so the fact that you've taken some time to hang out with us for a while is fantastic.

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Great.

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