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What are some of the myths that you can dispel to kind of help us get in the right track in terms of what we should be doing?
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You know, the biggest one is that we're taught that our health is complicated and our current medical model is.
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It complicates it on purpose and it separates us.
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It separates like think about all the specialties that doctors go into and the people in the medical profession are good people.
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Our medical profession is taught to separate everything.
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We have an ear, nose and throat doctor, we have an OBGYN, we have someone who only takes care of our back and someone who only takes care of our brain, but really we are holistic and I think the biggest myth is that health is complicated.
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In reality, our health is simple.
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Being healthy is our birthright.
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This is how we're designed for vibrant health.
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Hi, I'm Glennis Woods Mullins and I love to help women to vibe, to be more vibrant, intuitive, beautiful and empowered in midlife.
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So come on, let's vibe.
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Have you ever had that experience where you meet someone and immediately you say, oh yes, I'm so glad you're on the planet?
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That's exactly what my experience was with Jane Barlow Christensen.
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She is amazing.
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She's a neurologist, and the reason why I am so excited about having her on the podcast is that I really want people to understand the importance of the idea of food as medicine and how herbs can even enhance your eating experience and help you medicinally.
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You don't always have to depend on dropping a pill or getting something cut off to be well.
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There are so many things we can do preventatively and also things that we can do when we do get sick.
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That really falls in the land of Jane Bartlett Christensen, who is a neurologist.
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It's so wonderful to have you here today.
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Welcome to the Vibe Living Podcast, thank you.
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Linus, I'm so excited to be here.
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You're right, we totally clicked from the very beginning.
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Yes, like, oh, you're in my tribe, okay, yeah, I know.
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And I'm so always looking for my tribe, because sometimes you talk about these things, people are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean my husband.
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When I go into the grocery store, he'll say things like well, linus, can we just go and shop about?
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Hearing about why we shouldn't get this or why we should get that.
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I mean, can we just?
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I get it.
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But I'm just so passionate about it because I see what is happening when it comes to our overall health because of the depleted healthy food supplies or because of the cost of organics, and people not wanting to expend that much, not understanding that you either pay for it on the front end or the back end.
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So tell us a little bit about you and how you came to be so passionate about plants and herbs and how they can help us to be well.
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Yeah well, I feel like I'm in a really really lucky category Because I fell into this just because of the family that I was born into.
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So my dad, his degree was in medicinal botany, so he was a botanist and he was just one of those people that he loved and understood everything about plants.
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He was intrigued by what made certain plants be medicine for humans and he had a real special love for Native American plants and he studied that extensively.
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But because he loved that and this is what he did, we grew up this way.
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So I grew up in the 60s and 70s.
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I'm second oldest of 14 kids.
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So, oh my god, we just your mom.
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Yeah, well, it's really true.
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And but here's the thing they met in college and my mom said to my dad when they were dating I want a dozen.
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So she knew from the beginning that she wanted to have a large family and so she had 11.
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And then my parents adopted three Native American children when they were four, three and two, and they were.
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I was four.
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So we got these siblings who were full blooded Eastern Shoshone they were.
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They grew up with us, they were just our siblings.
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Up with us, they were just our siblings, but that put it to 14.
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So we grew up in a time where fast food was really becoming big junk food soda, of course and we were so deprived because we didn't get to do any of that.
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We didn't, you know, we didn't get to eat fast food.
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We we hardly ever went out to eat in restaurants.
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Just because you don't take a family of 10 out to the, you know, you just don't do that.
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We have a big garden and what would happen when we were growing up is my dad would be driving somewhere.
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My dad would see a plant that he would want to teach us about, that might be in just the perfect bloom or the perfect type of year to collect it, but he would pull over, we would all scramble out and he would be like this is the part of the plant you use, this is the common name, this is the botanical name you make it and it was a short, easy to understand for a bunch of little kids, but this was just normal for us.
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And then, as we got older, of course it would be like we'd roll our eyes, like, oh my gosh, seriously, you know, this is OK, dad.
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And then, as adults, we realized what a massive gift this was so.
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He formulated a bunch of herbal remedies that he was very well known for.
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I believe he was very ahead of his time, but really he was part of.
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Human.
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Beings have always been taking care of themselves with plant medicine.
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In fact, most of the world still uses plant medicine.
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First we're we're the odd ones, the people in the Western world where we turn to drugs, and so I.
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So I grew up with this and it.
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My dad passed away 27 years ago, and I've restarted his company after he passed away, and that's what I do.
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So that's such an amazing story.
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There's something about being able to carry on something that started with a previous generation and to honor it and then to add to it, which is which is so amazing and should be inspiring to everyone who's listening to this podcast.
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I challenge you what is it about your family legacy that you want to carry on?
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Because we really want to be thinking about that when it comes to plans.
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Right before we came on, we were chatting about busting some of the myths that are out there, and I mentioned you know in general that we really would like to get to a place in this country where we are acting preventatively and using our food as medicine and sourcing our food differently where it really adds value.
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But we're not quite there yet, and part of that is because of some of the myths that are out there.
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What are some of the myths that you can dispel to kind of help us get in the right track in terms of what we should be doing?
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Well, you know, the biggest one is that we're taught that our health is complicated and our current medical model is.
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It complicates it on purpose and it separates us.
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It separates like think about all the specialties that doctors go into and the people in the medical profession are good people.
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I have a sister who's a nurse.
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She's been a nurse for 30 years but because she grew up the way I did, she has a different perspective as she's walked through her career and she's been able to actually care for people.
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She's a labor and delivery nurse, so she's in when people are coming in Perfect.
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It's amazing, yeah, so I think that that our medical profession is taught to separate everything.
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We have an ear, nose and throat doctor, we have an OBGYN, we have someone who only takes care of our back and someone who only takes care of our brain.
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But really we are holistic and I think the biggest myth is that health is complicated.
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In reality, our health is simple.
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Being healthy is our birthright.
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This is how we're designed for vibrant health.
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I mean, think about this, linus, if you think about the normal modern human we eat food that's not good for us, we drink the wrong things, we don't exercise enough, we don't get enough sunshine whatever, and we still are alive and we still actually most of us thrive.
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So when you start to give your body the right tools, and it is it's not complicated, but it's been made complicated on purpose to confuse us.
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So I think a myth is that it's if you get something that's a health issue.
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It's scary and it's complicated.
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That's one of the biggest myths I think people need to realize.
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It's not and it's complicated.
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That's one of the biggest myths I think people need to realize it's not, and also that the only way that you can fix it is if you do this, this, and this involves taking pharmaceuticals and pills.
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And let me say I am not anti-doctor.
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I have some doctors who are my clients that I work with in terms of helping their patients, because the way our patient care system is right now, it's very difficult for doctors to spend a lot of quality time with their patients, and it's not that they don't want to, it's just the way it's managed.
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And more and more doctors are realizing that they want to be more integrative and they want to be able to do some things, but to do that requires amassing a lot of knowledge within a short period of time, of which they have none, and so that's why people like you are so important.
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Now, as you know, this podcast is designed to really help women over 40, 50 and beyond to vibe, to be more vibrant, more intuitive, beautiful and I'm talking about that inner beauty radiating out and empowered to embrace this aging process and to live a great midlife.
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What are some of the like go-tos or tips that you share with women in this age group that they need to be doing when it comes to herbs.
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What kind of herbs should they like be looking for in the grocery stores, and how should they be using them?
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What are your like like maybe top five that you think they need to have?
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Yeah, that is a great question, because this is where it does get overwhelming for people.
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They're like I'd love to learn about herbs and how to incorporate them, but there's so much out there and a lot of people aren't raised with this and they're intimidated by it.
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So what I would say the best place to start is in your kitchen spice cupboard.
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Think about the herbs that you cook with.
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So I think everyone should have cayenne pepper in in their spice cabinet.
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So far I got that Okay, and the reason I'll give a really brief is it's really good for digestion, it's really good for your metabolism and my favorite thing is it's really good for your heart and your vascular system.
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I watched my dad, when I was 14 years old, stop a heart attack on an elderly person in our community with cayenne pepper tincture.
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I'd stopped his heart attack within.
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It was about 60 seconds so, and then, of course, he still went to the doctor and everything was fine.
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But I was 14 years old and I witnessed this with with cayenne pepper.
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So cayenne pepper is one of those things.
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If you don't like it in heat form like using your food um, take it in a capsule, you know.
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Take it in supplement form, um, turmeric.
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Yeah, turmeric is great for inflammation and pain.
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It's got anti-cancer properties, it's got antioxidant properties.
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Um, it's again good for it's.
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That's one of the things that I think has been very popular in the last few years too.
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People are realizing oh, turmeric, it's good.
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It's kind of like the.
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It's kind of like the end thing, you know the end spice right now.
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And it should be.
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It should be.
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I also love holy basil.
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Holy basil is something that is easy to get.
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You can grow it in your, your herb garden.
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It's in the mint family but it's holy basil is something that is easy to get.
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You can grow it in your herb garden.
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It's in the mint family.
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But holy basil is what's known as an adaptogen and as people or women, especially once you start getting older, we all know our hormones change and as just women in general, every month.
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Even a young woman, the hormones are changing every single month.
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So holy basil is something that's absolutely delicious as a tea.
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It's super, super easy to get and you can even cook with it, because it adds really nice flavors to your food.
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It's a nice minty flavor, yeah.
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It's a rich aromatic.
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It's in the mint family, but it doesn't have a minty flavor.
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To me.
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You can get it in the tea form as well.
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Yeah, but it doesn't have a minty flavor.
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Yeah, to me you can get it in the tea form as well.
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Yeah, and that's my favorite way, because it I mean, my husband, is the cook and he, so he doesn't really cook with like the holy basil is not part of the cooking.
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But yes, if you're cooking with it and the fresh leaves especially, you're gonna get a big power punch of amazing flavor and amazing health benefits.
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But it balances your body chemistry amazing flavor and amazing health benefits but it balances your body chemistry.
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So it it, it and basically your hormones.
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It helps if your hormones are too high or you're there too low no-transcript, so holy basil for sure, and then something like ginkgo.
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Ginkgo is something for brain health, oxygen and circulation to your brain.
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It also improves full body circulation and it is an easy supplement to get.
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It's a little harder to grow because it's a tree.
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I have a sister with a big.
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Well, I'm glad you mentioned the ginkgo, because there was a big.
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A few years ago it was a big craze for ginkgo biloba.
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Everybody was getting it and everything else.
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But my concern was the sourcing it.
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How do you know you're getting a good ginkgo?
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Is there a way to tell yeah?
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that's such a good question.
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That's a very important question.
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So my go-to with any herb or supplement that I get is, first of all, I stay away from the big box the big box stores, unfortunately because so what you want to look for is every company that makes a supplement should be able to provide what's called a COA, which stands for certificate of analysis, and when an herb is taken, put to a supplement, it should go through a really comprehensive lab test that tests for is it the right species and is it clean of microbes and heavy metals.
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And if it passes that test and then it goes through the process of being made into like capsules or a tincture or something like that, then it ends.
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Then they test it again and it ends with a COA that you should be able to get from any company.
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So it takes a little bit of due diligence.
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People might have to do a little bit of research and search out those companies that you can trust and you should be able to get them to send you, if they can't send you, a certificate of analysis.
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If you just say COA, I would not.
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You would wonder about that.
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Yeah, it makes me wonder about a couple of popular ones that are out there that I'm sure people are buying and thinking it's okay and I would.
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I'm going to test it.
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I'm going to ask them to send me a CLA.
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Well, not just that.
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Really an important thing is to look at what the ingredients are, cause it might say something like organic rice flour and you might think, oh, it's organic and it's rice, it's okay, but that is a filler that's just filling up room in a capsule, and so you want to look for percentage, like you know.
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So we make some, we make some capsule things and we don't use any fillers Zero, zero fillers.
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You should get what you get If you.
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You know, like we do, a capsule product for heart health called Heart Love.
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It has cayenne pepper, cinnamon and slippery elm and it's in an organic veggie cap.
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There's nothing else.
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So if you're getting something with good ingredients, like turmeric and cinnamon, but then it says things like organic rice flour or things like that, you're just getting a bunch of filler because it's super cheap and but your brain goes, oh, it's organic and you're, you might get.
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Yeah, I just saw something.
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I just saw something the other day Organic chips.
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Really, do they grow out of the ground?
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Do you know any chip trees?
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It just drives me crazy.
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Organic corn chips In Willy.
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Wonka land.
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They might grow on a tree.
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I mean organic.
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That is the most processed food you could get, but yet still they're calling it organic and they get away with it.
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It drives me crazy.
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And what's the other herb?
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That was four for yeah, so I would say believe it or not, garlic oh, that's, so interesting I was just listening to something.
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Uh, today my husband is an avid youtube listener on all things herbs and everything like that, because, yeah, he's um, actually he's using your book to grow our herb ground garden.
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We had a few things in our herb garden.
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Now we're adding more.
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And he was listening to about garlic.
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It has so many great benefits.
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People don't realize that the things that we're used to using in our kitchen and in our cooking is adding some really beautiful medicinal benefits, Like.
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So a lot of people are already doing it and they just don't maybe realize it.
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Right, my favorite combination is ginger and garlic and onions, along with whatever vegetable I'm, you know, stir frying or whatever.
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It just really tastes great.
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Now, you know, 15 years ago I would have been like, oh no, garlic, I can't stand the smell, or whatever.
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But it's so good for you that you learned to kind of get past all of that.
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You know, I have to tell everybody for those of you who are listening on Apple, or some of you might be actually watching this on YouTube but this is a wonderful book.
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It's Jane's book of healthy habits.
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I love this book.
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She sent it to me.
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I was so excited.
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I felt like it was Christmas morning.
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There's just so much great information in here and it's easy to read.
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But the other thing that's just beautiful is this book you wrote with your dad.
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Um, you didn't write this with your dad, right?
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no, so my dad wrote a book when I was in high school uh-huh and it was called from the shepherd's purse and it had 48 plants in it.
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So he passed away 27 years ago and I we've been having people ask you need to republish your dad's book, you need to republish and it needed to be updated.
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So I took the original 48 plants and I added, I doubled the content and I changed all the pictures, I updated them, I changed all the illustrations.
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So I it's wonderful yeah, it's be your own shaman a field guide to utilize 94 of the 94, you did double of the world's most healing plants.
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It is wonderful, and this is what my husband's been using to figure out what can grow in our herb garden right now.
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We have dill basil.
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What else do we have?
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Nut, ginger, rosemary, and we've got a lot of kale.
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We also that's not an herb, though we also have let's see one other one slippery elm.
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Oh yeah, he's, he's got it.
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He figured out how to grow that, which is really he has.
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He has a pretty green thumb, so we're just beginning.
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Uh, but boy, do we have a whole bunch of rosemary.
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Anybody want to come by my house and get some rosemary?
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Please come and get it, but it's the only have too.
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I use the lavender as part of my skincare regime because I have a machine that helps extract the oils from the seeds and I use that for part of my cleanser.
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And that's interesting because herbs can be used in our food, but they also can be used in other ways as well.
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I have found so many uses for lavender.
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I mean, I, like I said, I use it for my skin.
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I use a concoction of coconut oil, avocado oil and olive oil, mixed in with essential oils, including lavender, and that's the only thing that I use, and I am.
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I'll be 68 in about five months.
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I'm counting down now, jay when's your birthday.
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I wonder if we have this it's in June.
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It's in June okay, mine's in May, so there's an okay close.
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Oh, mine's June 3rd, when is yours?
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May 14th and I'll be 64 so okay, you'll be 60 unbelievable.
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You do not look 60, she doesn't look 64 at all.
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Vibra.
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You don't look almost 68 either, like hello.
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Okay, so we are the 60 sisters.
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Okay, we're putting a whole new definition to what 60 is all about.
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But I think a lot of that has to do with our lifestyles and when people ask me about my skin or my weight or whatever, it really is a holistic approach mind, body, spirit.
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But the very first thing is just to begin to be aware that you want to make some changes and begin to make incremental changes.
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Like she said.
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You know doing the whole herb thing.
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It can be overwhelming because there's so much that's out there, but I love the fact that you gave us five that are really have great uses in terms of incorporating them in our lifestyle.
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What kinds of different ways can we incorporate herbs in our lifestyle besides just with cooking?
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So teas, I think really good teas are a great way to incorporate herbs.