July 27, 2024
Debunking Midlife Weight Gain Myths and Redefining Midlife Wellness
Do you believe weight gain in midlife is inevitable, or will lifting weights make you bulky?
On this podcast, Lynnis and her friend and wellness coach, Pam Sherman discuss the common myths surrounding midlife weight gain. Lynnis and Pam dismantle these myths while putting a spotlight on the real culprits behind midlife weight gain—namely, a lack of physical activity
Sharing from her wealth of expertise, Pam shares practical tips and personal anecdotes emphasizing the importance of physical activity as a key factor behind midlife weight gain. Together, Pam and Lynnis highlight the transformative benefits of strength training for women over 50, focusing on becoming leaner and stronger rather than bulkier.
Some of the topics they cover:
- The best time to exercise
- Benefits of short bursts of exercise throughout the day
- Advantages of walking
- How to integrate movement throughout the day
- Essential exercises to maintain fitness over 50
- Significance of a high protein diet as we age
- Taking a holistic approach to weight loss
- Evaluating the pros and cons of weight loss medications.
This episode is tailored to empower health-conscious and spiritually-inclined women in their 40s or 50s and beyond by offering guidance and community support to achieve vibrant wellness and deeper self-connection.
Join Lynnis and Pam as they provide information and advice on how to stay healthy and fit while maintaining a healthy mindset as we age.
Bio
Pam has been passionate about health and wellness for 30 years helping women through exercise, nutrition, and finding balance in their lives. She helps women lose weight, reconnect with themselves, and feel great.
Pam is the founder of The Perfect Balance, certified trainer and instructor since 1997, an author, media contributor, and motivational speaker.
Pam helps women have more energy, better moods, and confidence. Her philosophy is the power of healthy food and fitness will help you achieve your wellness goals, no matter where you're starting from.
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Chapters
00:00 - Midlife Women's Health and Fitness Myths
05:28 - Exercise and Health Myths Debunked
16:58 - Empowering Midlife Women Through Mindset
24:57 - Weight Loss Drugs and Fitness Realities
32:47 - Connecting Through the Right Living Podcast
Transcript
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How many hours a day or minutes a day should we be moving?
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or working out.
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Well, the old myth when I first started teaching, every class I taught was an hour.
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So I think a lot of women think they have to work out for an hour, which is absolutely not the case.
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Any minute you spend on yourself and your health is worth it.
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So, if you have 10 minutes, 10 minutes is better than zero minutes, Because if you did 10 minutes seven days a week, that's 70 minutes.
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That's better than zero minutes.
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Now, if you have more time, certainly a good 20 or 30 minute workout wonderful, Especially if you're not doing anything.
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I wouldn't jump in and go for a 30 minute workout.
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Baby steps are really what can lead women to success hi, I'm glennis woods mullins and I love to help women to vibe, to be more vibrant, intuitive, beautiful and empowered in midlife.
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So come on, let's vibe.
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I always say it's not just what you look like, it's what your health is like, and the idea of having a year-round fitness program is really important.
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So I invited my friend, pam, and I have to tell you we have been trying to get together at least three times to do this podcast.
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We're just excited that we were able to overcome all the technical stuff and schedule glitches.
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We're here today and I'm really excited to have her here with us.
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She's a health and wellness coach and she specializes in helping women get through the throes of menopause in particular, and she also likes to talk about the importance of strength training.
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And I just love what you do, pam, it's so important.
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I know you've been doing it for over 30 years and you've been helping them women not just lose weight but reconnect with themselves and feel great in a positive way.
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So welcome to the Vibe Living Podcast.
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Great to have you and thank you for the nice introduction.
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Yes, it's been my passion, really my entire life helping women.
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Of course, when I was younger I was helping younger women.
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Now that I'm 57, it's helping mostly women over 50.
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I have a couple under 30-ish clients but mostly over 50, because it's such a unique time in life.
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It is and one of the things I said that I wanted to talk about before we came on.
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There's so many myths out there about weight gain and midlife women and what to do and not what not to do, and I feel like, because there's so many more of us now, there's more research being done and more and more information is coming out.
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That's dispelling some of the myths.
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But I wanted to ask you first of all, what are some of the myths out there about weight gain and women over 40, over 50, that just really isn't quite the case.
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That it's inevitable that you're going to gain weight once you hit a certain age.
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I heard gosh, this was maybe 20 years ago.
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So 20 years ago I was 37.
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Seems like a lifetime ago.
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I had a gal at my gym said just wait till you turn 50.
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You're going to get a keg around your middle.
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And I thought I don't really think that's the way that works, that just because you get to be a certain age, your body's going to stop working the way it should work.
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Our metabolisms actually don't start slowing down until after the age of 60, but we can do things to prevent that.
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So your age is not a death sentence on your health or how you look or how you feel if you take the measures to work with your body.
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So that's interesting, because we've always heard that after 50, after 55, and you did say after 60, perhaps our metabolism is going to slow down.
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So if that's not the case, then what's going on?
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Why does this seem to be happening with women over 50?
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Because they're moving less.
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Think about you in your twenties we were on the go, go, go, go, go, go go.
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We barely sat down.
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Our lives now, at this age, is much more sedentary and it takes more work where you know.
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Yes, our lives are convenient.
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We could order DoorDash every day and not actually have to cook or do any of the things.
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But daily movement is so, so important in life and one of the big myths I want to talk about is if you lift weights, you'll get big, bulky muscles.
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That's been around forever and that is a hundred percent false.
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You actually get smaller when you strength train, not bigger.
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In all of my years, in 30 years, I have never seen a woman get big and bulky from lifting weights.
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And I get Arnold Schwarzenegger's daily newsletter or five days a week newsletter and he said and he commented on this myth and he's like, if it was that easy to get big, I've spent thousands of hours in the gym to get where I am.
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If people think spending an hour a couple of times a week in the gym to get where I am, If people think spending an hour a couple of times a week in the gym is like, sign me up for that, because that would be great to get big muscles that quickly.
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It just does not work like that.
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Right, that's good to know.
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Right before we came on we were talking about that and I was talking to you about I just recently started a different kind of strength training program, you know, using my home gym that I hadn't been using.
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It's so easy.
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It sneaks up on you and doing what I do online, all the time I'm thinking I've gone somewhere, I'm thinking I'm moving, but actually I could easily, if I don't stop myself is sit here for two or three hours and not move.
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But I have come up with a secret sauce that's helping me and one of them is taking that break and going out to my weight room and spending 10, 15 minutes.
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I'm an increment girl, you know 15 minutes here, 15 minutes there.
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But what's the real skinny on this, pam?
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How many hours a day or minutes a day should we be moving or working out?
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Well, the old myth when I first started teaching, every class I taught was an hour.
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So I think a lot of women think they have to work out for an hour, which is absolutely not the case.
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Any minute you spend on yourself and your health is worth it.
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So, if you have 10 minutes, 10 minutes is better than zero minutes, because if you did 10 minutes seven days a week, that's 70 minutes.
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That's better than zero minutes.
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Now, if you have more time, certainly a good 20 or 30 minute workout wonderful.
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But you don't, especially if you're not doing anything.
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I wouldn't jump in and go for a 30 minute workout.
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Baby steps are really what going to lead women to success, where many women are all or nothing Like if I can't work out for an hour, I'm not going to do it.
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I know.
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Break up with that mindset A little bit is better.
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And if you do work from home, I would say set your alarm on your phone for every 50 to 60 minutes, get up and walk for five or 10 minutes.
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That's a great idea, pam.
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I will do that.
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You know what I have been doing.
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I used to do this all last year and it kept me, you know, from go from tipping the scales or breaking my chair.
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So I would get up in between my interviews or with my clients or whatever, and I would run in place for about 30 seconds and then I would do 20 pushups wall pushups, real quick, and I would do 50 squat and a 50 second plank and that really helped a lot.
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The other thing that I hear a lot of women say is that it's much better to make sure you exercise first thing in the morning rather than exercise late at night.
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That's much better for you.
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What do you say about that?
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You're shaking your head.
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For those of you who can't see, myth, myth, myth.
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Okay.
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Whenever you have the most energy is the best time to work out.
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I'm a morning person.
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I love working out in the morning.
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Six o'clock at night I'm ready for my jammies.
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There is no way I'm working out at six o'clock at night.
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Whatever your body clock says is the best time is the best time.
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That being said, if you have a crazy busy day, I recommend getting it done first thing in the morning, because it's so easy to just let that go First thing in the morning.
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I have a I mean on my YouTube channel, linus, I created a 10 minute workout playlist for those ladies who say I don't have time.
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I'm like you got 10 minutes.
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Oh, I gotta check that one out.
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Okay, so now that's good information.
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Now here's another question.
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It's another.
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I have a list of these myths.
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I don't know if they're myths or not.
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They could be true.
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But what's better walking every day or doing an exercise plan every day?
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I would say walking.
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Why is that Okay?
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So I have to tell you I am a former long distance runner snob.
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I do not learn long distance anymore and I just thought why walk, why bother?
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I know.
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That was me in exercise.
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I didn't want to exercise because I was a dancer Right.
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But there comes a point in time.
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But then I went to Italy, where there are no gyms and everybody walks all the time and there is zero obesity, and they eat real food and they walk and walk, and walk.
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Realistically, most of us can walk more than we can work out.
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We all have access to working out.
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Not all of us have access to a gym.
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I'm sorry.
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We all have access to walking.
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We don't all have access to a gym.
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So for longevity, I mean, we definitely need strength training for longevity, but realistically I would say if more people can get more walking in, that would be incredible.
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Okay, that's good.
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Now here's another one.
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This is one that's been going on a while, but it seems like I hear it a lot, and that's about the ability to get up off the floor if you fall down.
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Okay, so what are the kind of exercises we need to be doing in order to make sure we can get up off the floor?
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Now, some of the ones that I've seen in terms of what you need to be able to do, I'm like, oh my gosh, and I'm in fairly good shape, but it would be hard on my knees what they're saying, and it's not because my knees are in bad shape, but I have hardwood floors in most places and I guess even with the yoga mat, it's just like too much.
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So they're doing a lot of knee stuff and some other things, but what exercise do we need to be doing, or what types of exercises, in order to get up if we fall down?
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Yeah, it's interesting because my on TikTok most of my videos are like a couple hundred views, the ones where I have getting up off the ground 300,000 views, which is because I'm like, okay, people need to know how to do this, it's a thing.
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It's a thing.
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So getting on your butt and then putting your hands by your sides, kind of rocking and rolling up, that's one way, especially if you have hardwood.
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So more like back, like this, and come up you can put your hands on the ground yes, you have hardwood floors.
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I would still get on your hands and knees and practice putting one foot on the floor and then the other and then standing up.
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So you're on hands and knees.
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Bring one foot up, your other knees on the ground, press yourself to standing.
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Oh, I can do that, yeah, okay, that's not too hard on the knees, that's not too hard on the knees, that's not too hard Squats.
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People need to be doing.
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Squats are one of the best exercises you can do for the rest of your life.
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If you don't know how to do it, sit at your kitchen chair, have your butt on the very edge of the chair, stand up, sit down and touch your butt.
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Stand up, touch your butt.
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Most people do not go all the way down.
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You want to go that far down.
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That builds your leg muscles, which are very important in getting up.
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I have a firefighter friend who says 60% of his calls are for people that fall in their homes and can't get up 60%.
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I believe that too, because here's the other thing I was just talking about in the other podcast I was recording let's face it, the baby boomers ain't going away.
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So we're here, we have the longevity going for us, but the issue is the quality of life that we want to live in longevity.
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So now here I am, 67.
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Okay, let's say that I wasn't in the shape that I'm in right now.
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Is it too late for me?
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Never, never.
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The studies that I read say you can even build muscle in your nineties.
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I read that same study.
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Consistency is the key.
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So thinking you can work out once a week and that's going to fix your whole life Absolutely not.
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I think most people need to be strength training three times a week, if not four times a week, and if you're doing nothing, start with one or two times and work up to three or four times.
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Body weight exercise is a great way to start, and then you can add dumbbells, get a trainer, go take a class, something like that.
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But now that I'm a decade younger than you 57, I think how do I want myself and my clients to feel when they're 70, 80, 90?
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What we do now has a direct reflection on how we feel later.
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So for all these people that sit all day, you're going to feel like crap in 10 years because you're not using your body.
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That's right.
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I danced until 62.
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And I know I'm still seeing the benefits of that right now and actually I am going to start dancing again.
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In fact I'm rehearsing right now to dance at church, so I am going to be moving again.
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But you know how you treat your body.
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For those of my younger listeners because I know I have some 30-somethings out there how you treat your body right now, when you're younger, makes a huge difference as you get older.
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I know that young people have a tendency to like to junk their body, do whatever, it doesn't matter, and it doesn't at that time, but it catches up to you later on.
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But I also hear you saying that it's not too late to reverse some of those bad lifestyle decisions.
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It's definitely not too late.
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You can always change the way you eat.
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In fact, I say a lot to women.
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Your body is like a Ferrari.
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You would never put cheap gas in the Ferrari, ever.
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Your body deserves high quality nutrition.
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It does not deserve cheap, fast or easy Right.
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That's, that's true.
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That's true, in fact.
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Let's talk about that a little bit, about sourcing our food.
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This may or may not be a myth.
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Let's see if we can dispel this myth or say it's true.
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First of all, that, basically, your weight is all about what you put in your mouth 95% yes, 95%, yes, okay.
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So since that's 95%, how important is sourcing?
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First of all?
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Let's go back, just in case some people don't know what is sourcing.
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First of all, let's go back, just in case some people don't know what is sourcing and why is it so important when it comes to our food?
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Where?
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your food comes from is where it's sourced from.
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So probably a lot of people hear about eat locally and eat seasonally.
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So we shouldn't be having blueberries in December because they're not grown that time yet.
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They're grown in the summer.
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This is the best time to have any kind of berries.
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Buying fresh, buying I'm sorry buying frozen in the winter, absolutely.
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That's a great thing because they're frozen right when they're fresh.
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But sourcing is do you know where your food came from?
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And we might not.
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I mean, it's hard to know exactly where everything came from, but you want to buy close to home as much as you can and much as you can, and really you want to be able to.
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If you buy processed foods, you want to be able to look at the ingredients and pronounce and know what they are.
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If you can't pronounce or know what they are, then more than likely it's not something you need to be putting into your body.
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It's interesting how the things that are good to put in your body are pretty easy to pronounce.
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And single ingredient foods apple, egg, meat and the whole.
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What drove me crazy is when the keto thing came out and people would say you know fruit's bad and in my experience nobody has ever gotten fat eating an apple, three apples, berries.
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No, I tell you, with all these different approaches, with meal plans and everything and I'm not going to poo-poo any particular kind of meal plan, but I do have some issues with some of them, because I believe that too much of anything is never good.
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All things in moderation.
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As we get older and we need that connective tissue and other kinds of things to get a complete protein, maybe you won't burn in hell if you decide to eat some kind of flesh like salmon or, you know, avocado, tuna or maybe a piece of chicken or whatever, if you've been a non-meat eater for a long time.
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As our bodies change, we have to check in with ourselves and figure out okay, do I still need to be eating this way?
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And you also need to figure out what's going on in terms of your vitamin levels, your hormonal levels and all of that.
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It's not.
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It doesn't have to be a complicated thing, but it is something that where you want to honor your body by just checking in with yourself to find out what's going on.
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Well and really paying attention to how you feel after a meal.
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Are you full?
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Do you have high energy?
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Do you have low energy?
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As we age, we lose muscle after the age of 40, unless we actively strength train and for your listeners to know, our muscles protect our bones.
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That's why so many older people fall.
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They break bones because they don't have any muscle that protects their bones.
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That's why strength training is vital, especially as we age and our protein needs actually increase as we age.
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Where you see, as you age, a lot of people, their appetites decrease.
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They actually need to eat more protein to protect the muscle that they do have and that's very hard because they might not want to eat that much, but you need it to protect the muscle.
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Well, let's talk about that, because when we first met, you spoke into my life about proteins and I knew that I need to increase my protein, but my number was like about 30 or 40 grams less than your number.
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Pam told me that we need to be doing at least 100 grams of protein a day, and some people might think 30, 30, 30, 30, 60, 30, 90.
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Okay, yeah, close to 100.
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So somebody was saying, well, oh my God, I don't eat meat or that's too many carbs for beans and rice.
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But, pam, what did you tell me about that?
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There are amazing protein shakes out there that you can have, and most of us women are not natural meat eaters Meaning I think of Fred Flintstone with a great big brontosaurus like thing in his hand.
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We're not natural meat eaters.
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I guess I do like meat, but I can't eat a lot of meat.
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I highly encourage women to find an amazing protein shake.
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You can have one or two a day.
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That'll get you 50 grams a day.
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That's halfway to your goal and it might seem like a lot, but we are carb eaters by nature.
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Women are.
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We need to flip that switch and make it every meal.
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You should think what's the protein I'm gonna eat first, then vegetables and then a healthy carb.
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Build your plate like that and you will see you'll be really full.
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You won't have sugar cravings.
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I mean, when you're full, you're not thinking about should I get those Oreos or not, you're just you're full, which is great.
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You don't have to eat meat to get the protein that you need.
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Absolutely, and I've been doing the 100 a day, coming close, and I do it with two shakes, you know one in the morning, early mornings.
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I want to make sure that I introduce protein in my system first thing in the morning, so I did that, and then one in the afternoon with a big lunch.
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And let's talk about calories.
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Here's another one that is somewhere around the myth, yes or no?
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Is it important for us to count calories?
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No, no, I agree with you.
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I didn't always agree with you, but especially as we get older, it really becomes about something else.
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